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=Agenda=
 
=Agenda=
 
*3:10-3:20, Welcome, Goal of the meeting, Agenda, Taking notes in wiki
 
*3:10-3:20, Welcome, Goal of the meeting, Agenda, Taking notes in wiki
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*3:20-3:35, Introduction of [https://www.assembla.com/spaces/sparkit/wiki/SlicerRt SlicerRT] project (under [http://www.assembla.com/spaces/sparkit SparKit]) goals, design options - Csaba Pinter
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*3:20-3:35, Introduction of [https://www.assembla.com/spaces/sparkit/wiki/SlicerRt SlicerRT] project (under [http://www.assembla.com/spaces/sparkit SparKit]) goals, design options - Csaba Pinter ([[media:DICOMRTImportInSlicer4.pptx|slides]])
 
*3:35-3:50, Overview of DICOM-RT - Greg Sharp ([[media:2012-01-09-sharp-dicomrt.pdf|slides]])
 
*3:35-3:50, Overview of DICOM-RT - Greg Sharp ([[media:2012-01-09-sharp-dicomrt.pdf|slides]])
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*3:50-4:15, Overview of DICOM-SR & AIM - Andrey Fedorov
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*3:50-4:15, Slicer annotations for Quntitative Imaging Network (DICOM SR, AIM) - Andrey Fedorov ([[media:2012-01-09-fedorov-qin_slicer_annotation.pdf|slides]])
 
*?:??-?:??, Introduction of ... - Anyone who is interested
 
*?:??-?:??, Introduction of ... - Anyone who is interested
 
*?:??-4:40, Discussion about the common needs, priorities, the best approaches and design options
 
*?:??-4:40, Discussion about the common needs, priorities, the best approaches and design options
 
*4:40-5:00, Decisions, Action plan
 
*4:40-5:00, Decisions, Action plan
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== Organizational Topics==
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* How can we organize ourselves to minimize duplicated effort
 +
** How to share code with Slicer and non-Slicer projects (plastimatch)
 +
* Who is 'on the hook' to deliver functionality related to DICOM?
 +
** What is funding the effort?
 +
** What is the use case and deliverable?
 +
** What toolkit will be used?
 +
** What synergy is there with other efforts?
 +
* Are there specific issues that we can work out this week as a team?
 +
 +
== Design questions==
 +
* How to add handling of the new entities in CTK?
 +
** Notifyable loadable module?
 +
* How to represent the data in Slicer? (which MRML nodes to use)
 +
* Conversion issues between the representations
 +
** Contour → Volume/Surface
 +
** Manual or automatic
 +
* Are RT specific modules expanded during import or just on load in the treeview?
 +
 +
== Plan ==
 +
* Telecons
 +
** Internal (just us), next week (Jan 16-20) - to be organized by the SparKit group<br>Participants please sign up on the bottom of the page
 +
** DCMTK
 +
*** What can go reasonably in DCMTK should go there as lowest level toolkit
 +
*** Middle level addition for interpreting raw data
 +
** CTK
 +
*** Get relevant tags from RT/SR and insert them in database
 +
* Slicer extension
 +
** Hidden loadable module
 +
** Lower level register-observe method
 +
** Storage nodes, IO factory
 +
** Solve binding of the annotations to a volume
 +
* Representation
 +
** Contours
 +
*** Store contour series - vtkMRMLAnnotation...Node: PolyLine
 +
*** Hierarchy: Structure Set -> Structure -> Contour
 +
**** Hierarchy nodes that represent a relationship
 +
**** Transform graph: tree, Grouping: tree/graph?
 +
 +
== TBD ==
 +
* Image representation, multiple structures for a voxel
 +
* DICOM Metadata format in Slicer
 +
** Keep it in the file?
 +
*** We have the UID and the database -> we can get the file
 +
*** Caching may be implemented in CTK
 +
*** The file can be kept in memory
 +
*** Pointer in the vtkMRMLNode to a DCMTK object
 +
 +
== Follow-up meeting ==
 +
'''Sign up here to get invitation to the meeting with CTK and DCMTK developer groups'''
 +
*Andras Lasso
 +
*Csaba Pinter
 +
*Kevin Wang
 +
*Steve Pieper
 +
*Greg Sharp

Latest revision as of 23:31, 12 January 2012

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Objective

  • Identify and priorize tasks regarding the integration of DICOM RT related functions in Slicer4
  • Make decisions upon major design questions
  • Plan further steps

Time and Place

  • 3PM-5PM, Tuesday, January 10, 2012
  • Amethyst room, Marriott, Salt Lake City, UT

Agenda

  • 3:10-3:20, Welcome, Goal of the meeting, Agenda, Taking notes in wiki
  • 3:20-3:35, Introduction of SlicerRT project (under SparKit) goals, design options - Csaba Pinter (slides)
  • 3:35-3:50, Overview of DICOM-RT - Greg Sharp (slides)
  • 3:50-4:15, Slicer annotations for Quntitative Imaging Network (DICOM SR, AIM) - Andrey Fedorov (slides)
  • ?:??-?:??, Introduction of ... - Anyone who is interested
  • ?:??-4:40, Discussion about the common needs, priorities, the best approaches and design options
  • 4:40-5:00, Decisions, Action plan

Organizational Topics

  • How can we organize ourselves to minimize duplicated effort
    • How to share code with Slicer and non-Slicer projects (plastimatch)
  • Who is 'on the hook' to deliver functionality related to DICOM?
    • What is funding the effort?
    • What is the use case and deliverable?
    • What toolkit will be used?
    • What synergy is there with other efforts?
  • Are there specific issues that we can work out this week as a team?

Design questions

  • How to add handling of the new entities in CTK?
    • Notifyable loadable module?
  • How to represent the data in Slicer? (which MRML nodes to use)
  • Conversion issues between the representations
    • Contour → Volume/Surface
    • Manual or automatic
  • Are RT specific modules expanded during import or just on load in the treeview?

Plan

  • Telecons
    • Internal (just us), next week (Jan 16-20) - to be organized by the SparKit group
      Participants please sign up on the bottom of the page
    • DCMTK
      • What can go reasonably in DCMTK should go there as lowest level toolkit
      • Middle level addition for interpreting raw data
    • CTK
      • Get relevant tags from RT/SR and insert them in database
  • Slicer extension
    • Hidden loadable module
    • Lower level register-observe method
    • Storage nodes, IO factory
    • Solve binding of the annotations to a volume
  • Representation
    • Contours
      • Store contour series - vtkMRMLAnnotation...Node: PolyLine
      • Hierarchy: Structure Set -> Structure -> Contour
        • Hierarchy nodes that represent a relationship
        • Transform graph: tree, Grouping: tree/graph?

TBD

  • Image representation, multiple structures for a voxel
  • DICOM Metadata format in Slicer
    • Keep it in the file?
      • We have the UID and the database -> we can get the file
      • Caching may be implemented in CTK
      • The file can be kept in memory
      • Pointer in the vtkMRMLNode to a DCMTK object

Follow-up meeting

Sign up here to get invitation to the meeting with CTK and DCMTK developer groups

  • Andras Lasso
  • Csaba Pinter
  • Kevin Wang
  • Steve Pieper
  • Greg Sharp
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