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** Goal is to get the first version of the biomedical resource ontology (BRO) finalized and approved by the seven centers within the next month, before the all-hands meeting.  Currently, the group is streamlining it—they want flatten it out, simplify it.  The current decision is to develop the BRO and delay any attempts to reconcile it with other ontologies that exist.  This is just one field in the biositemap.xml file.  This could provide direction for the SDIWG Ontology working group.   
 
** Goal is to get the first version of the biomedical resource ontology (BRO) finalized and approved by the seven centers within the next month, before the all-hands meeting.  Currently, the group is streamlining it—they want flatten it out, simplify it.  The current decision is to develop the BRO and delay any attempts to reconcile it with other ontologies that exist.  This is just one field in the biositemap.xml file.  This could provide direction for the SDIWG Ontology working group.   
 
** Need a tool for creating the annotations.  This is being created by NCBO.  Natasha will take the lead with Ivo and Bill Bug.  David is to be added to this list.  Natasha is creating the environment using Protégé. The first user will be iTools.  After finishing this, the team will build it out to the 7 centers.  Send Peter an email if you want to be involved earlier.
 
** Need a tool for creating the annotations.  This is being created by NCBO.  Natasha will take the lead with Ivo and Bill Bug.  David is to be added to this list.  Natasha is creating the environment using Protégé. The first user will be iTools.  After finishing this, the team will build it out to the 7 centers.  Send Peter an email if you want to be involved earlier.
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** Need adoption of biositemaps by all seven centers before the all-hands meeting.  Only 3 of 7 centers are linking right now on the BISTI page.  Peter pointed out that all 7 centers have contributed to iTools, in the alpha version.  What would help is conversion of tools on iTools into xml files.  Ivo says that you can’t currently do this, but maybe they could create a tool for this.
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** Proposal to create a demo to show how biositemaps could be used to link up tools and data.  Want to tell a story that wouldn’t happen with an individual center.  One possibility is diabetes.  How would this relate to imagery? This will branch off as a separate working group. 
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***The paper on iTools added a demo for searching for data and tools through iTools.  It was a proof of concept of integrating pieces into a workflow.  Ivo volunteered to show how this was done, perhaps with another Tcon. 
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***Peter mentioned that inputs and outputs weren’t well-described in his white paper on biositemaps on purpose, pending version 2.0, which will be a more Semantic Web-enabled tool but it wasn’t on the current agenda
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* '''Other Working Groups Update''':  Scientific Ontologies and NCBC Driving Biological Projects Interactions and Impact need to branch off.  They need to finalize efforts and think about setting up new working groups for after the all hands meeting.
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* '''Meeting Schedule''': Need more meetings.  Tcon the 3rd Friday of every month was proposed.  Next Tcon would be June 20th.  It was pointed out that the ISMB mtg and others conflict with July Tcon.  Action:  Suggest times for summer and then decide what works
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* '''All Hands Meeting'''
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** Karin is excited about the second day’s afternoon discussions and wants to coordinate dialogs between different centers.  Are there people in other communities to invite, e.g., in other programs?  Suggestions included CTSA, NIST, and BIRN.  Action:  Group will do a follow-up with PIs to provide input on this.
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** Idea suggested to possibly switch demo to evening of 1st night and do working groups morning of 2nd night to get more quality time.  Problem is with hotel space.
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** Yuan suggested having a demo for the biomedical society to learn what wonderful tools have been developed so we can work together.  While a demo is scheduled, Yuan emphasized the the need to invite the people, not just program directors.  Invite other groups.
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** Idea came up about setting up a booth at the annual neuroscience meeting.  There’s great interest in the tools being developed.  If agenda for meeting isn’t set, holding a session to talk about the tools would be even more effective.
  
 
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Friday May 16, 2008: 2:30-3:30 PM EST
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Save the date for the 2008 NCBC AHM: Friday August 13-15, 2008

Tcon Agenda


Minutes

  • Note taker: [Suggested order of note takers for future meetings: Joy Ku (this one); Schroeder; Floratos; Rubin; Jags, Dinov, Murphy]
  • Review of Feb 22, 2008 Minutes
  • Attendees: Peter Lyster (NIH/NIGMS), Joy Ku (Simbios), Jeanette Schmidt (Simbios), Natasha Noy (NCBO), Mark Musen (NCBO), Csonger Nyulas (NCBO), Ivo Dinov (CCB), David States (NCIBI), Zac Kohane (i2b2), Brian Athey (NCIBI), Jim Cavalcoli (NCIBI), Beth Kirschner (NCIBI), Karin Remington (NIH/NIGMS), John Matochik (NIH/NIAAA), Yuan Liu (NIH/NINDS), Jennie Larkin (NIH/NHLBI), Aris Floratos (MAGNet), Will Schroeder (NA-MIC), German Cavelier (NIH/NIMH)
  • Biositemaps Resourceome Update
    • Goal is to get the first version of the biomedical resource ontology (BRO) finalized and approved by the seven centers within the next month, before the all-hands meeting. Currently, the group is streamlining it—they want flatten it out, simplify it. The current decision is to develop the BRO and delay any attempts to reconcile it with other ontologies that exist. This is just one field in the biositemap.xml file. This could provide direction for the SDIWG Ontology working group.
    • Need a tool for creating the annotations. This is being created by NCBO. Natasha will take the lead with Ivo and Bill Bug. David is to be added to this list. Natasha is creating the environment using Protégé. The first user will be iTools. After finishing this, the team will build it out to the 7 centers. Send Peter an email if you want to be involved earlier.
    • Need adoption of biositemaps by all seven centers before the all-hands meeting. Only 3 of 7 centers are linking right now on the BISTI page. Peter pointed out that all 7 centers have contributed to iTools, in the alpha version. What would help is conversion of tools on iTools into xml files. Ivo says that you can’t currently do this, but maybe they could create a tool for this.
    • Proposal to create a demo to show how biositemaps could be used to link up tools and data. Want to tell a story that wouldn’t happen with an individual center. One possibility is diabetes. How would this relate to imagery? This will branch off as a separate working group.
      • The paper on iTools added a demo for searching for data and tools through iTools. It was a proof of concept of integrating pieces into a workflow. Ivo volunteered to show how this was done, perhaps with another Tcon.
      • Peter mentioned that inputs and outputs weren’t well-described in his white paper on biositemaps on purpose, pending version 2.0, which will be a more Semantic Web-enabled tool but it wasn’t on the current agenda
  • Other Working Groups Update: Scientific Ontologies and NCBC Driving Biological Projects Interactions and Impact need to branch off. They need to finalize efforts and think about setting up new working groups for after the all hands meeting.
  • Meeting Schedule: Need more meetings. Tcon the 3rd Friday of every month was proposed. Next Tcon would be June 20th. It was pointed out that the ISMB mtg and others conflict with July Tcon. Action: Suggest times for summer and then decide what works
  • All Hands Meeting
    • Karin is excited about the second day’s afternoon discussions and wants to coordinate dialogs between different centers. Are there people in other communities to invite, e.g., in other programs? Suggestions included CTSA, NIST, and BIRN. Action: Group will do a follow-up with PIs to provide input on this.
    • Idea suggested to possibly switch demo to evening of 1st night and do working groups morning of 2nd night to get more quality time. Problem is with hotel space.
    • Yuan suggested having a demo for the biomedical society to learn what wonderful tools have been developed so we can work together. While a demo is scheduled, Yuan emphasized the the need to invite the people, not just program directors. Invite other groups.
    • Idea came up about setting up a booth at the annual neuroscience meeting. There’s great interest in the tools being developed. If agenda for meeting isn’t set, holding a session to talk about the tools would be even more effective.

Action Items

  • TBD.


Appendix: Biositemaps white paper

The biositemaps Biositemaps white paper v3.2 presents description of prototype for distributed architecture to address

  • locating,
  • querying,
  • composing or combining, and
  • mining software tools and information resources on the Internet.

Each site which intends to contribute to the inventory instantiates a file on its Internet site ‘biositemap.xml’ which conforms to a defined schema and is tagged by a resource ontology. The prototype schema may be found at http://www.ncbcs.org/biositemaps/biositemaps-v04.xsd A good reference for XML editors is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xml_editor e.g., we are using XMLmind. The prototype resource ontology may be found at http://bioontology.org/projects/ontologies/SoftwareOntology/.

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