DBP:Andy Saykin visit BWH December 14 2005
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Who:
- Dartmouth: Andy Saykin, John West, Bob Roth (others?)
- BWH: Steve Pieper, Sandy Wells, Wendy Plesniak (fMRI), Haiying Liu (fMRI), C-F Westin (DTI), Raul San Jose (DTI).
What:
- fMRI
- Test new Slicer fMRI package with Dartmouth Data (2 motor cases)
- Compare results to SPM
- Discussion on where to improve fMRI package in Slicer after testing
- DTI
- Discussion of what new improvements/features in Slicer 2.6 DTI
- Discussion of improvements still needed in DTI package (eddy current correction, scale factors, etc.)
Where:
- 1249 Boylston conf room 2nd floor directions here.
When:
- Dartmouth people arrive 10am
- 10:00 - 11:00 -- DTI meeting with Marty and Schiz group
- 11:00 - 12:00 -- fMRI Phase I - Wendy, Haiying, Carsten
- copy Dartmouth data
- overview of software and new features
- start analysis with new data
- 12:00 - 1:15 -- Lunch (with Marty and anyone)
- 1:15 - 1:45 -- EM Atlas Classifier (Kilian Pohl)
- test slicer2.6 version on dartmouth datasets
- discuss plans for AHM
- 1:45 - 3:00 -- fMRI Phase II - Wendy, Haiying, Steve, Sandy, Carsten
- review results, statistics, blobs, models
- 3pm LMI meeting: Present recent DTI developments and discuss open issues
- Lauren O'Donnell will show some recent developments relating results from fiber clustering and fMRI
- David Banks will show new software visualizing Lauren's fiber clustering results
Meeting Notes (John D. West)
- 10:00 - 11:00 -- DTI meeting with Marty and Schiz group
- Presentation on fiber tracking of arcuate fasciculus (AF)
- Background on function of AF.
- Description of difficulty in fiber tracking of AF
- 2x2x2.4mm EPI DTI - tracts in AF do not fully track in EPI based sequences
- LSDTI - line scan DTIs perform better but are much longer (30 min sequences)
- Discussion ongoing about whether to go with line scan or EPI sequences
- Presentation on fiber tracking of arcuate fasciculus (AF)
- 11:00 - 12:00 and 2:00 - 3:00-- fMRI - Wendy, Haiying, Carsten
- Discussed progress of fMRI analysis module
- Event related analyses have been implemented
- Results from first Dartmouth control using new module seem much improved
- Ability to output clusters to label maps and then get statistics within each cluster
- Discussed improvments to be made
- Add batch processing feature
- Add ability to save model settings
- Need to be able to separte deactivation clusters in label map from activation clusters when doing statistics
- Ability to do group analyses on data - general change to slicer
- Discussed progress of fMRI analysis module
- 1:15 - 2:00 -- EM Atlas Classifier (Kilian Pohl)
- Joint segmentation and registration - large improvement over registration to atlas then segmenting
- Is usable with any atlas
- Need SPGR and T2 (aligned) to perform segmentation
- Potential to auto segment 30+ structures with current atlases though some issues still need testing and tweaking
- 3pm - ~4pm LMI meeting: Present recent DTI developments and discuss open issues
- Lauren O'Donell - fiber clustering and fMRI
- Development of program in slicer to cluster individual fiber tracts into groupable clusters - automatic
- Tools to further group clusters into major fiber tracts - manual
- Shown on test case on tumor patient - how fiber tracts and fMRI activation clusters interacted with tumor
- Sent reference to Lauren on classification of white matter by FA value (WM>0.2 FA) - hopefully will assist in project (Ref: Pierpaoli et al., Radiology, 1996. DTMRI of the Human Brain.)
- David Banks - visualization of fiber clustering from Lauren
- Using global lighting to improve realistic visualization of fibers
- Rendering computationally time consuming - but tools available to convert this to 3D movie for later viewing in real time
- Gordon Kindlmann - Eddy Current correction
- Correction of eddy currents using a moment based approach - no need for reference scan (e.g. Mean DWI image) to correct disstortions
- Tested on first dartmouth control DTI with good success
- Currently working on polishing program for Slicer 2.6
- Measurement of moments could potentially be used for DTI QC
- Lauren O'Donell - fiber clustering and fMRI
- 4pm on - Bob Roth and John West discussion with Steve Pieper on possible Slicer improvement and new features in Slicer 2.6
- Possible improvements to make
- Global save - option to save all images in scene at one time
- Smaller pointer for tracing - arrow obstructs view while tracing and is not as accurate
- New improvements in Slicer 2.6
- Keyboard commands for tracing
- To change colors on the fly
- Delete previously drawn lines
- Hold shift key to have other two views follow tracing in view being editted
- Joint smoothing of multiple models
- Save all models function
- Also learned about color map editting and saving (current commands)
- Keyboard commands for tracing
- Also discussed a couple of potential bugs (in bug tracker), but could not reproduce - John West and Bob Roth will keep an eye on these to see if the are present in Slicer 2.6
- Possible improvements to make
Huge thanks to Marty Shenton and her group for having us visit.