June 9,2005

Attendees

• MGH: Dave Kennedy, Shawn Murphy, Heidi Schmidt, Jorge Jovicich
• JHU: Tim Brown, Anthony Kolansy
• UCSD: Christine Fennema Notestine
• UCI: Dingying Wei
• UCLA: Karen Crawford
• WashU: Dan Marcus
• BIRN CC: Jeff Grethe

Action Items Summary

• (EVERYBODY) Please keep updating your wiki pages, specially in preparation to our next meeting (July 14, 2005).
• (D. Wei - 1 month) Discuss with D. Keator and J. Turner the idea of planning an XNAT deployment at UCI in early/mid August. This shall follow the July 15 release of the lastest version from WashU. This choice of our site for the next XNAT installation is potentially valuable because it helps us bridge the two human testbeds.
• (C.F. Notestine - 1 month) Discuss with the MAD team how the timing of an August UCI-XNAT schema could be synched with the processing and analysis of the MCI data from UCI. Also, discuss with Burak to see if he'd be willing and able to support the deployment of XNAT at UCSD in August. If yes, discuss with the MAD group the value of this and how it should be prioritized from the science's perspective.
• (K. Crawford - 1 month) Obtain information about plans and tentative schedules for a distributable LONI-DB. A LONI-DB that helps bridge the human testbeds with Mouse BIRN would be highly desirable. Obtain feedback from A. Toga with regards to his plans on this front.
• (C.F. Notestine - 1 month) With the MAD group, define application areas which would use mediation and provenance in a way that is scientifically relevant and that can be demonstrated at the Oct 2005 AHM.
• (A. Kolasny - 1 month) With the SASHA group, define application areas which would use mediation and provenance in a way that is scientifically relevant and that can be demonstrated at the Oct 2005 AHM.
• (A. Kolasny & D. Marcus - 1 month) Follow up discussion about considering SASHA's database schema in XNAT format.
• (C.F. Notestine - 1 month) With the Ontology & Mediation groups, define a more concrete set of Ontology goals and deliverables that can be shown at the Oct 2005 AHM using scientific relevant examples
• (J. Grethe, C.F. Notestine, J. Jovicich - 1 month) Review the descriptive information and data that will be made publicly available as a sampler from the MAD project.
• (J. Grethe - 1 month) With BIRN CC, define the structure, location, and format of the BIRN pages from which the general public will acces BIRN distributable data, software or other information (e.g., image acquisition protocol recommendations). Also, define what type of information is needed by them from the BIRN people willing to make things available. Written information about this would be helpful.
• (D. Kennedy - 1 month) Update the Mbirn: Semantic Web wiki pages to include more details on the work plans and target goals on this front for Oct 2005

Discussion Topics

• Feedback from on high
  • Feedback from NCRR was that Wiki was very helpful.Keep it up and keep updating.
• Workflow
  • Shawn mentioned he hopes he gets input and information for a) decisions to make, b) who's going to host the workflow server, c) how much birn-cc is interested in being involved, d) how's implementation to occur
• XDAT
  • First paper on Oasis out and XDAT. Second paper for XNAT follows in a couple of weeks
  • July 15th target date for the full code set that has Adobe PDF reports, and ImageJ IMA image viewing
  • Code that is in a middle stage is to be tested this week and available at MGH Wednesday June 15th
  • In process of making source code tree available to be checked out.
  • Not available as a RPM, but available currently in a zip file (requires the person to build the server and structure to put the code into)
  • Supported databases are postgres... and mysql... (but previous version didn't handle views... and their code is dependent on views... so my answer would be go for postgres and avoid mysql for now)
  • Oasis will go public with a dataset and set of instructions. This is different than Xdat and what functions will be avail July 15th release.
  • The data set is open for everyone to use, most probably in the xml file format of the oasis.xsd
  • XDAT Third site:
    • Christine F.N not wanting to volunteer Burak for HID.
    • UCI Dingying will consult Dave Keator to see if late August can start to be the third site for WashU XDAT
    • JHU willing to also volunteer to be third site for mediation
• BIRN-CC distribution of XDAT
  • Not thought of at this time.Any package dealing with Web will require non BIRN Rack supplied server. Current HID web app server deployment not tested.
  • Conceptually the RPM could have generic location, code, and infrastructure, but then the administrator/installer would have to tailor it for the site it was being installed at.
• LONI-DB
  • LONI-DB not originally developed as distributable. They are working on a more distribution-friendly version, but there are no target dates.
• Mediation
  • Dave Kennedy mentioned the 3 scenarios talked about
    • XDAT to XDAT
    • XDAT to HID (discussions with Dave Keator have occured and he is aware of the potential to do this)
    • HID to HID
  • Emphasis on making the mediation by type of data structural to structural vs functional to functional.
  • Jeff Grethe stated that Duke has 2 HIDs: one for MIRIAD and one for MBIRN HID.
  • Dan has offered the WashU db up for connection with mediator. Status on that test? Not sure... remembered it from previous call.
• HID's status
  • This is for the db and the web interface...

 ***  UIOWA is not up with the db as of june 9th (issues with space)
 ***  Minnesota and Duke and New Mexico are up for db and web interface
 ***  MGH has the database but the web interface (issues with rpm and drivers... ongoing issue... being worked on)

• In transit
  • Jeff Grethe will be in Boston for NAMIC workshop June 27-29th. Dave Kennedy will try to sync up then.

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